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I don’t like wasting time on the fictional MJ-12 documents. Clouds of nonsense thrown out, but little in the way of actual documentation. I didn’t mention Dr. Wescott’s impressive academic background because it wasn’t relevant to the discussion… which was that he suggested that he was unable to prove or disprove that Hillenkoetter was the author of the EBD.
We are told that neither the Aztec nor the Plains of San Agustin crash were mentioned because they didn’t get news coverage. What a ridiculous idea, unless we are to believe that the authors of the EBD had to rely on the news media for their leads to these events. But wait, wasn’t there a bestselling book, Behind the Flying Saucers published in 1950 that did cover the Aztec crash, not to mention articles that appeared in the Denver newspapers?…
Or that the El Indio – Guerrero is not mentioned in any news coverage or articles until the late 1960s, but it somehow managed to make it into the EBD.
Or that the El Indio – Guerrero crash is the fatal flaw because it didn’t happen, was conceived in the late 1960s by a man whose military record is also falsified and if that event didn’t take place, then how could it appear in a document for the president in 1952?
Or that the whole date format, that is zero, day, month, comma, year (06 December, 1950) has not been found on any document that is of American creation but that Bill Moore habitually used this format… what an interesting coincidence. Yes, I noticed that Stan did not represent that date as it appeared in the EBD.
And if we wish to talk about writing fiction, which Stan insists on bringing up repeatedly, let’s talk about Gerald Anderson’s “black” sergeant and the validation Stan created for it by inserting that word into an interview of Bill Brazel conducted by Don Schmitt and me and recorded on audio tape… and Bill Brazel’s denial that any of the service members who visited him were black. This was an invention made to corroborate the rapidly failing tales told by Anderson… who did take Dr. Buskirk’s Anthropology class. What did the school officials tell Stan when he spoke with them in 1991? Talk about writing fiction.
And before I forget, I have been to many, many archives, research centers, museums and libraries in my search for the truth. That list is more than 20 such institutions, by the way. Oh, I have held security clearances in both industry and the military and for more than fifteen years held a top secret clearance, but I wonder if these points are relevant when discussing the fraudulent MJ-12 documents.
Please tell us Stan, why you failed to mention Project Aquarius, Bill Moore’s plan to create a Roswell document, or his book written with Bob Pratt and probably Richard Doty called, Majik -12… isn’t that somewhat worrisome? The whole MJ-12 thing laid out in a work of fiction?
As for provenance, those leaking classified material into the mainstream are often identified even if it means prosecution… and with Watergate, Deep Throat was not known to the general public, but Woodward (and I think Ben Bradlee) knew who he was and where he worked or to put a point on it, they knew the provenance of the information. Stan’s ridiculous claim to that the leakers would remain hidden to avoid prosecution is not born out in the history of such actions. They provide the provenance to prove that the documents leaked are authentic… and there is no such verification for the EBD. The trail ends with the fiction created by Bill Moore.
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See Also:
MJ-12: No Proof that TF, CT, or EBD Documents are Fraudulent, Argues Friedman
Roger Wescott, Roscoe Hillenkoetter and MJ-12
MJ-12: The Hoax That Quickly Became a Disinformation Operation
MJ-12 Debate Continues: Alejandro Rojas Rebukes Stanton Friedman
MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle's Final Word on The Matter?
MJ-12 Debate Continues: Stanton Friedman Counters
MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle Queries Stanton Friedman
MJ-12: Stanton Friedman Fires Back; The Disputation with Kevin Randle Continues ...
MJ-12: Kevin Randle Rails Against Stanton Friedman's Rebuttal
MJ-12: Alejandro Rojas Accepts Stanton Friedman's Debate Challenge
MJ-12: Renowned Ufologist, Stanton Friedman Issues Debate Challenge To Naysayers
More False Claims About Majestic 12
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 1
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 2
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 3
"Appendix A: The Myth of MJ-12" An Annotated Commentary By Barry Greenwood
Operation Bird Droppings
The MJ-12 Saga Continues:
UPDATE 1:
Operation Bird Droppings
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Bird Droppings and MJ-12, Stanton Friedman Responds . . .
An Historical Curio re "MJ-12"
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There is somewhat of a modern parallel to this with Edward Snowden. Internal NSA employee leaves the country with batches of classified documents and later releases them. Look at how the government erupted over his leaks, undeniably genuine by their reaction to and pursuit of him. Yet MJ-12 is professed to be the biggest covert secret in all of history (and is alleged to still be) and the government practically yawns. Surely not the reaction of genuine internal papers being released illegally, but it is the reaction to phony purveyors of truth with junk documents whose origins have no official traceability. Snowden, Wikileaks, et.al., have nothing on MJ-12, even though it has been out for 30 years and "leaked" all over the place. I would think that if these leakers of authentic government documents had found a gigantic UFO conspiracy, even hardcore patriots might forgive them for such a revelation and gain much sympathy from the public. But we've seen.......nothing from that quarter.
ReplyDeleteThe Bowen Manuscript on page 1935 written in ink in the margin dating to 1966 or before forensically says "1950 Texas/Mexican border"
ReplyDeleteForensic science proves Kevin wrong.
I have been researching the Majestic Twelve Documents for two weeks and have so far accumilated 360 facts just like this that proves them authentic.
Kevin Randle followers should read the chapter "The MJ12 debunkers in Top Secret/Majic.
One fact I found, not published on the web, not in a book written by Stan, proves one of the Majestic Twelve Documents is 100% authentic.